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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Is It Right?&#8221; vs &#8220;Is It Good?&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Digging Deeper Inside the Bass, with Steve Lawson.</description>
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		<title>By: The traps. &#171; Ten Northern Music</title>
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		<dc:creator>The traps. &#171; Ten Northern Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 01:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lawson, bassist and music thinker.  The first one was about the now famous Susan Boyle.  The second one describes the relationship between playing music &#8220;right&#8221; vs playing it well.  Both of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zach Parkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Parkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post, Steve, and a very salient point about the &quot;good vs. right&quot; debate. Growing up through the good ol&#039; CA &quot;Public School/Classical Music&quot; system, all I remember ever hearing feedback about was the &#039;accuracy&#039; of my performances, rather than their &#039;value&#039;, and I think this was one of the main factors that&#039;s made the Orff Method so appealing to me. [Incidentally, do you apply any of his techniques? The &#039;mindset&#039; you seem to be coming from seems right in line with the &quot;internal expression&quot; aspects of Orff music, wonderin if your methods do too? :)]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post, Steve, and a very salient point about the &#8220;good vs. right&#8221; debate. Growing up through the good ol&#8217; CA &#8220;Public School/Classical Music&#8221; system, all I remember ever hearing feedback about was the &#8216;accuracy&#8217; of my performances, rather than their &#8216;value&#8217;, and I think this was one of the main factors that&#8217;s made the Orff Method so appealing to me. [Incidentally, do you apply any of his techniques? The 'mindset' you seem to be coming from seems right in line with the "internal expression" aspects of Orff music, wonderin if your methods do too? <img src='http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ]</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on Steve! 

Most of my compositions began as an improv and the strands continue to feed one another. Feed music actually. Took a long time to believe that my efforts where worthy but that is another subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on Steve! </p>
<p>Most of my compositions began as an improv and the strands continue to feed one another. Feed music actually. Took a long time to believe that my efforts where worthy but that is another subject.</p>
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		<title>By: John Goldsby</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Goldsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice thoughts, Steve, especially: &quot;Rather than seeing writing and improvising music as two strands in the thread of musical development . . . .&quot;

I always teach my students that improvisation is just spontaneous composing. I do want to guide them in the right directions, so they do not spend a lot of time re-discovering common knowledge. But, I like to have them use their ears to decide if what is coming out of their fingers is really what they are &quot;wanting to hear.&quot; Once they trust their ears, then the fingers just have to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice thoughts, Steve, especially: &#8220;Rather than seeing writing and improvising music as two strands in the thread of musical development . . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>I always teach my students that improvisation is just spontaneous composing. I do want to guide them in the right directions, so they do not spend a lot of time re-discovering common knowledge. But, I like to have them use their ears to decide if what is coming out of their fingers is really what they are &#8220;wanting to hear.&#8221; Once they trust their ears, then the fingers just have to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael Suomela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikael Suomela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the notion that music studied only via other people&#039;s compositions via standard music notation has led many a player to believe that there is some sort of level you have to first qualify for before you can play anything of your own.

This sort of thinking can be traced back to craft guilds where you had to be accepted by a master. Pop music has had it&#039;s own share of self-nominated masters such as record companies etc. 

The thing of course is that by composing your own the forms of music are learned and felt much more rapidly than by any other means. &quot;Learning by doing&quot; - is THE statement here. John Dewey had this one correct back in the 1930&#039;s. Composing, producing your own material and critical comparison is essential for rapid music learning. There is also the notion that composition/improvising develops ear fastly provided that honest feedback is given to the person about time-feel and note-selection. There is no right or wrong in those situations - only &quot;functionality of playing&quot; which of course is in many ways a subjective opinion and should be seen as such by the people giving feedback and those who receive it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the notion that music studied only via other people&#8217;s compositions via standard music notation has led many a player to believe that there is some sort of level you have to first qualify for before you can play anything of your own.</p>
<p>This sort of thinking can be traced back to craft guilds where you had to be accepted by a master. Pop music has had it&#8217;s own share of self-nominated masters such as record companies etc. </p>
<p>The thing of course is that by composing your own the forms of music are learned and felt much more rapidly than by any other means. &#8220;Learning by doing&#8221; &#8211; is THE statement here. John Dewey had this one correct back in the 1930&#8242;s. Composing, producing your own material and critical comparison is essential for rapid music learning. There is also the notion that composition/improvising develops ear fastly provided that honest feedback is given to the person about time-feel and note-selection. There is no right or wrong in those situations &#8211; only &#8220;functionality of playing&#8221; which of course is in many ways a subjective opinion and should be seen as such by the people giving feedback and those who receive it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Farley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Farley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes yes! My goodness, that needs saying, and repeating (looping? D.C. non fine?). 

I wonder if the way so many of us started in the 60s and early 70s, playing music when we were supposed to be studying Fine Art, etc., rather than in academies, led to so many Good Beginnings in those days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes yes! My goodness, that needs saying, and repeating (looping? D.C. non fine?). </p>
<p>I wonder if the way so many of us started in the 60s and early 70s, playing music when we were supposed to be studying Fine Art, etc., rather than in academies, led to so many Good Beginnings in those days?</p>
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