<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments for Beyond Bass Camp</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/comments/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.beyondbasscamp.com</link>
	<description>Digging Deeper Inside the Bass, with Steve Lawson.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 21:35:38 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>Comment on Pattens &gt; Phrases &gt; Melodies &#8211; Organising Musical Material by Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/2009/06/pattens-phrases-melodies-organising-musical-material/comment-page-1/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 21:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/?p=94#comment-95</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What are intervallic permutations?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...sorry, the way I wrote it there&#039;s a bit of a disconnect between the phrase and the explanation - it&#039;s this bit: 

&quot;What that means is that we can take a fix set of notes – say one octave of a G Major Scale – and a particular interval – 3rds, for example, and work on all the possible permutations within that, &quot;

cheers

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What are intervallic permutations?</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;sorry, the way I wrote it there&#8217;s a bit of a disconnect between the phrase and the explanation &#8211; it&#8217;s this bit: </p>
<p>&#8220;What that means is that we can take a fix set of notes – say one octave of a G Major Scale – and a particular interval – 3rds, for example, and work on all the possible permutations within that, &#8221;</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Steve</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Pattens &gt; Phrases &gt; Melodies &#8211; Organising Musical Material by Huggums</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/2009/06/pattens-phrases-melodies-organising-musical-material/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Huggums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 23:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/?p=94#comment-93</guid>
		<description>What are intervallic permutations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are intervallic permutations?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Pattens &gt; Phrases &gt; Melodies &#8211; Organising Musical Material by Why any good Songwriter, needs to be able to Improvise &#171; Songwright</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/2009/06/pattens-phrases-melodies-organising-musical-material/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Why any good Songwriter, needs to be able to Improvise &#171; Songwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/?p=94#comment-91</guid>
		<description>[...] Lawson, solo bass player extraordinaire, wrote a blog post where he describes improvisation: # Improv resolutely is not ‘playing things you’ve never [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lawson, solo bass player extraordinaire, wrote a blog post where he describes improvisation: # Improv resolutely is not ‘playing things you’ve never [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on The Convergence Pyramid by Patrick McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/2009/10/the-convergence-pyramid/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/?p=107#comment-90</guid>
		<description>Great post, I really like the way you summed all of this up.  

Language classes seem to follow this progression very well - starting with basic letters, forming words, forming sentences, etc. etc. all leading up to the goal of communicating an idea fluently.   The red pen is eventually put down.

However, I feel that this progression slips the minds of many music educators.  It seems like a lot of music educators always keep the red pen out to fix and correct things that weren’t textbook perfect.  I think this is where the downfall of music education lies right now because it more or less mutes the student’s opportunity to truly convey a personal idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, I really like the way you summed all of this up.  </p>
<p>Language classes seem to follow this progression very well &#8211; starting with basic letters, forming words, forming sentences, etc. etc. all leading up to the goal of communicating an idea fluently.   The red pen is eventually put down.</p>
<p>However, I feel that this progression slips the minds of many music educators.  It seems like a lot of music educators always keep the red pen out to fix and correct things that weren’t textbook perfect.  I think this is where the downfall of music education lies right now because it more or less mutes the student’s opportunity to truly convey a personal idea.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on The Convergence Pyramid by Kevin Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/2009/10/the-convergence-pyramid/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/?p=107#comment-89</guid>
		<description>Nice article that really put a more personal perspective on my goals as a musician. I just read an interview with Wayne Shorter that said about the same thing, but in a totally different way. Thank you very much for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article that really put a more personal perspective on my goals as a musician. I just read an interview with Wayne Shorter that said about the same thing, but in a totally different way. Thank you very much for sharing.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on The Real Crisis In Music Education by Paddy Hare</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/2009/09/the-real-crisis-in-music-education/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy Hare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/?p=105#comment-70</guid>
		<description>I remember a few months ago whilst i was volunteering at a youth charity i was killing some time before the start of a group session with a bunch of young people and careers advisor who i&#039;d only just met. the conversation led to me talking about what i was doing whilst volunteering (finishing my music performance degree part time) and when i said i was finishing my music degree i was met with the sarcastic response &quot;Oh well that&#039;ll really help you get a job.&quot;

I&#039;ve never wanted a bloody job! i&#039;m fundamentally opposed to the idea of &#039;jobs&#039; however i&#039;m all for being paid to do something i&#039;m good at and enjoy doing. 

while it&#039;d be ideal if studying was simply getting better at what you love then things would be a lot simpler, but the need for money to survive is inescapable. I feel that rather than gearing the education towards getting jobs (if i hear the phrase &#039;graduate qualities&#039; ever again i may be forced to bludgeon LC to death...) the focus should be on how to use your skills and passion to earn money. to clarify slightly, i mean create your own systems to work within rather than opting into someone elses (ie getting a job, signing a deal etc)

i guess maybe the ideal ultimate goal for any educational institution is to reder itself obselete for its students, and give them the skills they need to teach themselves, and perhaps even more importantly, the skills to teach others themselves?

(apologies for any lack of clarity!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a few months ago whilst i was volunteering at a youth charity i was killing some time before the start of a group session with a bunch of young people and careers advisor who i&#8217;d only just met. the conversation led to me talking about what i was doing whilst volunteering (finishing my music performance degree part time) and when i said i was finishing my music degree i was met with the sarcastic response &#8220;Oh well that&#8217;ll really help you get a job.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never wanted a bloody job! i&#8217;m fundamentally opposed to the idea of &#8216;jobs&#8217; however i&#8217;m all for being paid to do something i&#8217;m good at and enjoy doing. </p>
<p>while it&#8217;d be ideal if studying was simply getting better at what you love then things would be a lot simpler, but the need for money to survive is inescapable. I feel that rather than gearing the education towards getting jobs (if i hear the phrase &#8216;graduate qualities&#8217; ever again i may be forced to bludgeon LC to death&#8230;) the focus should be on how to use your skills and passion to earn money. to clarify slightly, i mean create your own systems to work within rather than opting into someone elses (ie getting a job, signing a deal etc)</p>
<p>i guess maybe the ideal ultimate goal for any educational institution is to reder itself obselete for its students, and give them the skills they need to teach themselves, and perhaps even more importantly, the skills to teach others themselves?</p>
<p>(apologies for any lack of clarity!)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on The Real Crisis In Music Education by Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/2009/09/the-real-crisis-in-music-education/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 23:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/?p=105#comment-69</guid>
		<description>Thanks Pete - I made that point at Leeds, that the educators were in a no-win situation where the skills required and the motivation to acquire them were at odds with the system in which the college/uni functioned, and what they needed to do in order to get funding/accreditation etc. 

I have every sympathy with the music departments wrestling with this, and those that recognise the tension are in a much better position to hold that tension creatively and carve out a path that gets as close to meeting both sets of demands as possible. 

I also mentioned that one of the most valuable skils  I learned at Perth was learning how to teach, by watching you, and learning where to be hands-off, and just act in an advisory capacity in order to facilitate self-discovery. You did that brilliantly.... and I think I might have passed ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Pete &#8211; I made that point at Leeds, that the educators were in a no-win situation where the skills required and the motivation to acquire them were at odds with the system in which the college/uni functioned, and what they needed to do in order to get funding/accreditation etc. </p>
<p>I have every sympathy with the music departments wrestling with this, and those that recognise the tension are in a much better position to hold that tension creatively and carve out a path that gets as close to meeting both sets of demands as possible. </p>
<p>I also mentioned that one of the most valuable skils  I learned at Perth was learning how to teach, by watching you, and learning where to be hands-off, and just act in an advisory capacity in order to facilitate self-discovery. You did that brilliantly&#8230;. and I think I might have passed <img src='http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on The Real Crisis In Music Education by Pete Honeyman</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/2009/09/the-real-crisis-in-music-education/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Honeyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/?p=105#comment-68</guid>
		<description>Steve - It&#039;s no coincidence that art schools have always been a more fertile spawning ground for bands than music colleges - for forty years they have found ways to give a &#039;creative space&#039; in education with very few rules.  Unfortunately, higher education funding in the UK is dependent on results, measured by numbers of graduates attaining qualifications, rather than on achievement measured by individual &#039;journey travelled&#039;.  Maybe one day a government will fund education just because it&#039;s a Good Thing, and not look for any measurable output, but I&#039;m not holding my breath - UKIP? Tories? don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; It&#8217;s no coincidence that art schools have always been a more fertile spawning ground for bands than music colleges &#8211; for forty years they have found ways to give a &#8216;creative space&#8217; in education with very few rules.  Unfortunately, higher education funding in the UK is dependent on results, measured by numbers of graduates attaining qualifications, rather than on achievement measured by individual &#8216;journey travelled&#8217;.  Maybe one day a government will fund education just because it&#8217;s a Good Thing, and not look for any measurable output, but I&#8217;m not holding my breath &#8211; UKIP? Tories? don&#8217;t think so.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Evelyn Glennie On Playing Music And Learning by Steve Uccello</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/2009/06/evelyn-glennie-on-playing-music-and-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Uccello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/?p=91#comment-66</guid>
		<description>Awesome! Also, I loved &#039;Touch The Sound&#039; -a must see movie for any musician-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! Also, I loved &#8216;Touch The Sound&#8217; -a must see movie for any musician-</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Pattens &gt; Phrases &gt; Melodies &#8211; Organising Musical Material by Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/2009/06/pattens-phrases-melodies-organising-musical-material/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.beyondbasscamp.com/?p=94#comment-61</guid>
		<description>Hey, sounds like a lot of twiddling to me.

Intervals off scales, diatonic arpeggios and such are all muffin and muesli to the practising musician. It&#039;s all part of the daily struggle to able to play what you hear and not just what you can play.

I do believe though that if you can zip up and down a scale or whatever convincingly, then you&#039;ll be able to play slower with greater assurance and expression.

I have a couple of personal test pieces that I revisit two or three times a year and am always encouraged when my performance of them has been improved by non related practice.

And I fear it is a case of learning it all and then letting it go - no way round it.
 
Good luck with the rest of the bass camp sessions - I still think it&#039;s a brilliant idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, sounds like a lot of twiddling to me.</p>
<p>Intervals off scales, diatonic arpeggios and such are all muffin and muesli to the practising musician. It&#8217;s all part of the daily struggle to able to play what you hear and not just what you can play.</p>
<p>I do believe though that if you can zip up and down a scale or whatever convincingly, then you&#8217;ll be able to play slower with greater assurance and expression.</p>
<p>I have a couple of personal test pieces that I revisit two or three times a year and am always encouraged when my performance of them has been improved by non related practice.</p>
<p>And I fear it is a case of learning it all and then letting it go &#8211; no way round it.</p>
<p>Good luck with the rest of the bass camp sessions &#8211; I still think it&#8217;s a brilliant idea.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
